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How do you earn these?  Well by reading the manga of course.
...you mean reading it with the club right? Just wanna be clear XD.

Good point! i should make that more clear. XD
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Okay, so here's my take on book 9. It's pretty long, so bare with me. 

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***Hey everyone. The poll for the Sailor Moon Manga Club Vol. 9 Live Chat is up.  Sailor Moon Manga Club 2017/2018 [Archived] - Page 8 2422052349 ***
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I...can't remember if I'm a member of the manga reading club or not, but I'm here now! I'm sorry! I feel so dumb |||OTL I'll post my thought on vol. 9 later, but first, onto this month's theme!

I know I probably sound like a broken record, but my #1 OTP is Helios/Chibi-Usa. There are far more established/developed ships in Sailor Moon, but for me this pairing has seized my imagination and never let go. Part of it is because I first started reading the Sailor Moon manga at the Dream arc, and I had no idea what was going on at the time with Helios and Chibi-Usa, but I just found them very sweet and endearing, and that feeling has endured for decades after I first saw them on paper. The other part, I think, is that while Mamo and Usagi are the main couple, we know they'll get a happily ever after, so for me there isn't much suspense story telling wise. For Chibs and Helios this isn't true. They're both young (well, they appear young at least) and their relationship is just beginning to burgeon, and their future, together or apart, is unknown. As someone who likes to imagine stories beyond the canon this was perfect for me as there was just enough material to set up a whole new universe of stories.

As for preference of anime vs manga, I'd say I prefer their anime relationship development, because it took its time and really showed us how they got to know and trust one another before romance started to blossom. The manga on the other hand, feels a bit rushed, especially from Helios' perspective (in fact, I'd say his whole character is better developed in the anime compared to the manga). However, I like the lore of the manga better, but I'll save that discussion for later.

As for NOTPs, I feel like I've seen a lot of odd and cracky ships over the years, some done seriously, others, well...for the sake of crack or silliness. XD;; One of my old NOTPs was Helios/Endymion, and I think I was more shocked than anything else at the time, but the idea of that doesn't bother me much now. I feel like as long as a ship is carefully thought out and not dialed up to 11 for the sake of dialing it up or PWP, then I can probably go along with it.
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One of my old NOTPs was Helios/Endymion, and I think I was more shocked than anything else at the time...

Oh wow... Yeah that's a little shocking XD. I mean, somehow I feel like that would be a lot more awkward than even Mamo x one of the Shitennou lol. (And this is coming from a yaoi fan over here, btw... Though I don't ship for the sake of shipping like I once did with other fandoms ^^;;.)

But sure... Give me a convincing plot and psychological development and maybe... lol. I think that's the thing with NOTPs (or near-NOTPs): it's like a final test of writing mastery to actually make it work. Maybe a good guild challenge idea there hehe. Though I feel like they would mostly have to be above PG-13 just because things would have to be a little twisted to twist fate that much >.>.
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**OK, poll is closed. It has been decided that the Sailor Moon Manga Vol. 9 Live Chat will be taking place on Friday February 23rd at 9PM EST. See you there**
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Okay, so here's my take on book 9. It's pretty long, so bare with me. 

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Ooh ooooh ooh. I hope we can all bring up some of these points when we chat! The curse was always interesting to me plus getting more character development of the girls is a huge win-win. I haven't finished reading bad meeee but I think you are right about this arc. Though, I find there's a bit a decline in the Stars arc but I don't know if that's the fault of Naoko truly and more on how much she was rushed to finish it up. :/

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I...can't remember if I'm a member of the manga reading club or not, but I'm here now! I'm sorry! I feel so dumb |||OTL I'll post my thought on vol. 9 later, but first, onto this month's theme!

I know I probably sound like a broken record, but my #1 OTP is Helios/Chibi-Usa. There are far more established/developed ships in Sailor Moon, but for me this pairing has seized my imagination and never let go. Part of it is because I first started reading the Sailor Moon manga at the Dream arc, and I had no idea what was going on at the time with Helios and Chibi-Usa, but I just found them very sweet and endearing, and that feeling has endured for decades after I first saw them on paper. The other part, I think, is that while Mamo and Usagi are the main couple, we know they'll get a happily ever after, so for me there isn't much suspense story telling wise. For Chibs and Helios this isn't true. They're both young (well, they appear young at least) and their relationship is just beginning to burgeon, and their future, together or apart, is unknown. As someone who likes to imagine stories beyond the canon this was perfect for me as there was just enough material to set up a whole new universe of stories.

As for preference of anime vs manga, I'd say I prefer their anime relationship development, because it took its time and really showed us how they got to know and trust one another before romance started to blossom. The manga on the other hand, feels a bit rushed, especially from Helios' perspective (in fact, I'd say his whole character is better developed in the anime compared to the manga). However, I like the lore of the manga better, but I'll save that discussion for later.

As for NOTPs, I feel like I've seen a lot of odd and cracky ships over the years, some done seriously, others, well...for the sake of crack or silliness. XD;; One of my old NOTPs was Helios/Endymion, and I think I was more shocked than anything else at the time, but the idea of that doesn't bother me much now. I feel like as long as a ship is carefully thought out and not dialed up to 11 for the sake of dialing it up or PWP, then I can probably go along with it.

OH HAI MANGAKA! I'm adding you to our roster now. ^____^ OTP bestiessss! XD I like your reasoning behind why you like them though! It's not really something that crossed my mind maybe because in my mind I'm settled on them getting together but it is true that we know that Usa and Mamo have their guaranteed happily ever after, unlike many other pairings in the series.

I'm on board with the anime version of seeing their relationship grow, even though I do have some preferences for the over all plot and story of the manga. Chibiusa and Helios's scenes in the anime are some of my most favorite and beloved scenes of the entire series. The dreamscapes and flight scenes were always so romantic to me, not to mention the ending song (and thus other arrangements of it in BGMs) of Watashitachi ni Naritakute. It's been a favorite song of mine ever since I heard it years ago. /goes down memory lane

Anyway... ^^;;; I've never heard of anyone pairing Helios and Endymion. o_o Have you ever read any fics on it that were PWP that were decent? XD



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**OK, poll is closed. It has been decided that the Sailor Moon Manga Vol. 9 Live Chat will be taking place on Friday February 23rd at 9PM EST. See you there**

Looking forward to it! If you still aren't in our Discord group, make sure to PM me before the live chat!!
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Mangaka-chanI...can't remember if I'm a member of the manga reading club or not, but I'm here now! I'm sorry! I feel so dumb |||OTL I'll post my thought on vol. 9 later, but first, onto this month's theme!
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I know I probably sound like a broken record, but my #1 OTP is Helios/Chibi-Usa. There are far more established/developed ships in Sailor Moon, but for me this pairing has seized my imagination and never let go. Part of it is because I first started reading the Sailor Moon manga at the Dream arc, and I had no idea what was going on at the time with Helios and Chibi-Usa, but I just found them very sweet and endearing, and that feeling has endured for decades after I first saw them on paper. The other part, I think, is that while Mamo and Usagi are the main couple, we know they'll get a happily ever after, so for me there isn't much suspense story telling wise. For Chibs and Helios this isn't true. They're both young (well, they appear young at least) and their relationship is just beginning to burgeon, and their future, together or apart, is unknown. As someone who likes to imagine stories beyond the canon this was perfect for me as there was just enough material to set up a whole new universe of stories.

As for preference of anime vs manga, I'd say I prefer their anime relationship development, because it took its time and really showed us how they got to know and trust one another before romance started to blossom. The manga on the other hand, feels a bit rushed, especially from Helios' perspective (in fact, I'd say his whole character is better developed in the anime compared to the manga). However, I like the lore of the manga better, but I'll save that discussion for later.

As for NOTPs, I feel like I've seen a lot of odd and cracky ships over the years, some done seriously, others, well...for the sake of crack or silliness. XD;; One of my old NOTPs was Helios/Endymion, and I think I was more shocked than anything else at the time, but the idea of that doesn't bother me much now. I feel like as long as a ship is carefully thought out and not dialed up to 11 for the sake of dialing it up or PWP, then I can probably go along with it.

OH HAI MANGAKA! I'm adding you to our roster now. ^____^  OTP bestiessss! XD I like your reasoning behind why you like them though! It's not really something that crossed my mind maybe because in my mind I'm settled on them getting together but it is true that we know that Usa and Mamo have their guaranteed happily ever after, unlike many other pairings in the series.  

I'm on board with the anime version of seeing their relationship grow, even though I do have some preferences for the over all plot and story of the manga. Chibiusa and Helios's scenes in the anime are some of my most favorite and beloved scenes of the entire series. The dreamscapes and flight scenes were always so romantic to me, not to mention the ending song (and thus other arrangements of it in BGMs) of Watashitachi ni Naritakute. It's been a favorite song of mine ever since I heard it years ago. /goes down memory lane

Anyway... ^^;;;  I've never heard of anyone pairing Helios and Endymion. o_o Have you ever read any fics on it that were PWP that were decent? XD



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**OK, poll is closed. It has been decided that the Sailor Moon Manga Vol. 9 Live Chat will be taking place on Friday February 23rd at 9PM EST. See you there**

Looking forward to it! If you still aren't in our Discord group, make sure to PM me before the live chat!!

We can fangirl over Helios/Chibs together! Sailor Moon Manga Club 2017/2018 [Archived] - Page 8 1955989781 Open-ended stories are my favorite kind of stories, as far as fanfic writing is concerned, and this pairing is one of the first things that made me aware of how much I enjoy writing.

I can probably write a second dissertation on my thoughts and head-canons for this ship, but I agree with pretty much everything you said! If there is one thing I would nit-pick with the 90's anime is that I wish they'd have shown some of the romantic scenes between Chibi-Usa and Pegasus as her and his human form instead. Apparently some of the scenes between her and Pegasus gave people the wrong impression i.e. cough*bestiality, which, for me as a teenager, I totally didn't pick up on, but others evidently did. When I first came across those sentiments online I was legitimately confused, but looking back on it now I can kinda see why some scenes might squirk some people out a bit.

As for those Helios/Endymion fanfics...IMO, yes, but that also depends on one's definition of "decent". XD;; All the ones I've come across were rated M, and I don't think it's possible to write this ship without some heavy AU and/or the character themselves are OOC to differing degrees. Though to be perfectly honest, I tended to skim most of those fics and rarely read them all the way through because the set up flummox me so much, so I can't give a fair recommendation.

Thanks for adding me to the club! I don't know if I'll be able to make it to the chat but I'll try once I get added to the Discord manga club. Very Happy
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I can probably write a second dissertation on my thoughts and head-canons for this ship, but I agree with pretty much everything you said! If there is one thing I would nit-pick with the 90's anime is that I wish they'd have shown some of the romantic scenes between Chibi-Usa and Pegasus as her and his human form instead.


I wish the Helios reveal had been a bit earlier in the season for that reason alone. xD I love in the end where they say good bye and she is so shy around him. It's really cute!

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Apparently some of the scenes between her and Pegasus gave people the wrong impression i.e. cough*bestiality, which, for me as a teenager, I totally didn't pick up on, but others evidently did. When I first came across those sentiments online I was legitimately confused, but looking back on it now I can kinda see why some scenes might squirk some people out a bit.

As for those Helios/Endymion fanfics...IMO, yes, but that also depends on one's definition of "decent". XD;; All the ones I've come across were rated M, and I don't think it's possible to write this ship without some heavy AU and/or the character themselves are OOC to differing degrees. Though to be perfectly honest, I tended to skim most of those fics and rarely read them all the way through because the set up flummox me so much, so I can't give a fair recommendation.

Thanks for adding me to the club! I don't know if I'll be able to make it to the chat but I'll try once I get added to the Discord manga club. Very Happy

I was always confused why people thought it was odd too since I was the same way! I didn't really take it that way. Most likely because:

A.) I knew it was fiction
B.) He's not REALLY an actual horse
C.) This is a pure romance. Their love is exactly as the words in the ending song: "baby love". It's sweet, cute and 100% innocent. In fact the only time where it might've gotten a little uncomfortable was in the anime where Chibiusa starts undressing in front of him, not really thinking much about it (cause hey he's a magical pegasus that shows up in my dreams). She probably just saw it just like how you have no problems getting naked and taking a bath with your sister when you are that young. Ya know? (plus i found that scene more humorous than uncomfortable)
D.) THEY ARE THE BEST COUPLE. FANS NEED TO GTFO IF THEY GOT A PROBLEM WITH IT. XD XD XD


ANd that's ok on the fanfiction. I was just curious if you may have come across any. xD I don't think I'll actively seek any out cause honestly it seems too AU to be a ship I'd enjoy. I have a tendency to enjoy canon only ships or if its not canon yet but is suggested it might be oooor in some cases like Rei and Minako cause of their interactions in PGSM mostly. >.>

Also you've been added to the group so you should see it next time you jump on discord!

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Last weeks's chat was very fun. I enjoyed hearing people's thoughts on the volume. So I'm going to post my feelings on Volume 9.

Vol. 9:


Congratz on Mangaka for winning the trivia contest and well-done to everyone who was able to make it to the chat. I hope to see you again for the conclusion of Dream in Vol. 10. Smile
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That was really fun! And thanks to everyone (especially Diagnosed) for a great round of lightening speed trivia! Very Happy

As for my slightly rambling thoughts about vol 9,


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It's March and time to start volume 10. You guys we've only got 3 volumes left and then we'll be done! :O

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Just as a reminder to members: the club has our very own collectable achievement stamps!!

How do you earn these?  Well by reading the manga with the club of course. Razz As well as participating in the thread and livechats (this is how i know you read it ^_^) There are stamps if you read Vol 1-6, Vol 7-12, the Short Stories and Sailor V.  If you are really dedicated and have read all of the above, you get a shiny stamp! We have a spreadsheet where I'm keeping track of everyone's progress. If you feel like I've missed something, let me know and I'll fix it. ^_^


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Ooooh shiny!!!


Have you earned a stamp yet? Check below the spoiler and see!

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Don't forget to grab your bumper:

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Bumpers from past livechats below in the spoiler:

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Discussion of the Month:

The Dream arc uses a lot of motifs common in fairytails: a magical creature, an evil witch and a dark curse. With the curse, it's definitely got a Sleeping Beauty feel to it. What's your favorite fairytale? Has it influenced other works you've read/seen?

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Next Volume:

Sailor Moon Vol. 10

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Read online at:
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Discussions Open: March 16th 2018
Live Chat Discussion: TBD!

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*** Sailor Moon Manga Club 2017/2018 [Archived] - Page 8 868675979 Greetings club members. The poll for the Sailor Moon Manga Club Vol. 10 Live Chat is here.***
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Outside of the Stars arc best arc, I really haven't read through the manga in awhile so I'll try to jump in since you're getting to the best arc Stars soon.
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Yassss! Welcome back Yunie!! I'll add you back into hte list and stuff. Feel free to jump in withour discussion question, which I haven't had a chance to even touch yet. ;-;
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**Alright everyone. the results are in. It has been decided that the Sailor Moon Manga Vol. 10 Live Chat will be taking place on Friday March 23rd at 9PM EST. Looking forward to chatting about the conclusion of Dream Arc.

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The Dream arc uses a lot of motifs common in fairytails: a magical creature, an evil witch and a dark curse. With the curse, it's definitely got a Sleeping Beauty feel to it. What's your favorite fairytale? Has it influenced other works you've read/seen?

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Hello! I'd like to join, It's been a long time since I've read the manga, and I'd love to read it again with you all Smile
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Absolutely! I'll get you added to the group! We're having our chat for vol 10 tomorrow if you feel like joining in with us!
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I honestly can't really think of many fairytales that have blended into the themes of franchises or movies I've watched-aside from the actual fairytales themselves. This is going to take some serious thinking-I'll be back to edit this post when I find any.

I have a soft spot for all fairytales-even moreso now that I've heard the original versions before they were edited through decades to make them more children-friendly. The original version of snow white had a neat ending, in my opinion. 
original ending, PG-13 warning:

Then there's the totally NOT pg-13 story of bluebeard. This one is certainly more of one of the mature stories, and it's so twisted and yet full of poetic justice I can't help but love it. It reads like a horror story.

Gotta love Alice in wonderland and it's sequel though. It's so random and "mad"-it's just so much fun!

I could go on and on about all the fairytales I like and why, but that would probably deserve a thread of it's own. XD
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PostSubject: Re: Sailor Moon Manga Club 2017/2018 [Archived]   Sailor Moon Manga Club 2017/2018 [Archived] - Page 8 I_icon_minitime22nd March 2018, 10:11 pm

@Cosmos-hime: When I was little I only knew about the original Hans Christian Anderson versions of these classic fairy tales, as Disney movies were still uncommonly available in China at the time. I recall seeing Disney's The Little Mermaid for the first time and bulking at the happy ending, thinking "Hey! This isn't how the story is suppose to end!" XD;; Even now, I think I still prefer the bittersweet ending to the happily-ever-after Disney movie.

As for me, my favorite fairy tale is actually a myth from ancient Greece: the story of Cupid and Psyche. I remember getting really into Greek mythology when I was in 6th grade, and I got a copy of Edith Hamilton's Mythology. For some reason, this tale was the one that really spoke to me, partly I think because both Cupid and Psyche are depicted as flawed individuals. Cupid was dishonest about his true nature to Psyche, and Psyche lacked trust in Cupid. I also like the fact that after Cupid left her, Psyche didn't give up and undertook the trials Aphrodite tasked her with, no matter how terrifying they were. The fact that they have a happy ending and the poetic quality of the union of love and soul tickled the romantic in me, and to this day it remains my favorite Greek myth.

Funnily enough (or maybe unsurprisingly), the idea of "a girl being proactive in looking for the person she loves" is also reflected is another folk tale that I like: East of the Sun and West of the Moon. Again, we have a female protagonist who does not sit idly by and chases after her loves one, who had been cursed with a shape-shifting spell.

This of course, contributed to my love for Chibi-Usa and Helios' story, which has remarkable similarities to both legends. Sailor Moon Manga Club 2017/2018 [Archived] - Page 8 4152708388
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@Mangakachan: Lol, I was all set to mention EotSWotM compared to Cupid and Psyche but you did it already.

I don't know how many people here are familiar with it, but Pretear is based on Snow White. I highly recommend watching it. It's only 13 episodes, but it is so full of feels, feels, feels!
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Ooh I had forgotten Pretear was based off of Snow White! That was a great anime. And thanks Cosmos for getting the discussion going cause I was having a hard time thinking of stuff myself but now you guys have jogged my memory!

First there's Princess Tutu which is a bunch of fairy-tales wrapped into one feelsy story. Then, I was just thinking about how there is tons of media based on the 16th century Chinese novel Journey to the West, including anime, video games, comics and of course tons of Hong Kong and other Asian country films and tv shows. Probably the most well known anime that's loosely based on it is Dragon Ball.

I'm sure there's others but that's all I have off the top of my head. xD
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Brit-chan wrote:
First there's Princess Tutu which is a bunch of fairy-tales wrapped into one feelsy story. Then, I was just thinking about how there is tons of media based on the 16th century Chinese novel Journey to the West, including anime, video games, comics and of course tons of Hong Kong and other Asian country films and tv shows. Probably the most well known anime that's loosely based on it is Dragon Ball.

I'm sure there's others but that's all I have off the top of my head. xD

Oh! I completely forgot about Princess Tutu even though it was basically my life for about 7 years. There are so many classical fairy tale and ballet themed stories in that show, and I love how some of those familiar tropes were upended in the end.

Re: Journey to the West, it is probably the most popular work of classic Chinese folk lore to have been propagated in the modern age. But another well known Chinese novel based on classical folklore/mythology is Fengshen Yanyi, aka Investiture of the Gods, or Houshin Engi, as it's known in Japanese. The story resolves around an immortal sage name Jiang Ziya (also known as Taigongwang) who's been charged with sealing away demons that have bewitched the king of the Shang dynasty, chief among them, the nine tailed vixen Daji. Houshin Engi was made into a manga series by Ryu Fujisaki in the late 90's, who put his own spin on the story, both in terms of plot as well as artistic design.
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Speaking of Sleeping Beauty, I absolutely LOVED that element of it in this volume with Nehellenia's backstory! And incorporating the mirror the way she did was just awesome. And then it ends with a gender-reversal of the waking kiss which is cute 'cause hello modernity, I guess XD.

A fairy tale dear to my heart is actually Rumpelstiltskin. For whatever reason, it's one that really stood out to me as a child. It solidified in my mind the character traits of a proper imp - always looking for a bargain, with a foul temper and just a little too much hubris. I rather like him as a character! The version I like best is the one where on the third night he shows up and spins the gold despite the protests of the girl, since it makes his comeuppance particularly satisfying. There's a bit of luck involved, but I still like that the girl, although pretty much a door mat until that point, has at least the idea to send someone (or better, go herself as she does in some versions) into the woods where he may live. My only question is what he was intending to do with her child... Probably eat it I guess.
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I don't know of any other media off-hand that borrows directly from this tale, though deal-making with evil or chaotic-good creatures is pretty common in tales from all over the world.
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Didn't madoka magica have some elements of some german fairytale that were represented by the names of the witches, including where the runic alphabet that was used in the witches wards? I don't remember too much, but it the entire thing with sayaka's wish as well as her succumbing to despair was loosely inspired by it. 
This was from a rather old tumblr post, and I can't remember if it was properly sourced or not. Heck, the information I remember is rather dusty. Did anyone else hear of this, or read something that verifies the claim? If not it's totally fine.
Madoka does have loose fairytale-tyle elements with witches, wishes, curses and treachery and whatnot. It also has an evil animal that ends up tricking humans-that's always a super big thing in fairy tales. The animals that talk end up doing the tricking in quite a bit of them-if it's not witches or warlocks, that is.
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Just want to remind members that the chat starts in an hour.

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Speaking of Sleeping Beauty, I absolutely LOVED that element of it in this volume with Nehellenia's backstory! And incorporating the mirror the way she did was just awesome. And then it ends with a gender-reversal of the waking kiss which is cute 'cause hello modernity, I guess XD.
I'll admit, the Sleeping Beauty story is definitely a factor in my loving this arc. First reading, I'm stunned that my favorite fairy-tale was implemented into my favorite anime (since I saw anime before reading the manga).
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Hi all I know I missed this live chat, but I'm confused where does it take place? I don't see a link or anything anywhere? Thanks!
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Hey club members! We have an exciting announcement. If you weren't able to make it to the last chat of Vol. 10 of Sailor Moon but wanted to, then I have good news! Me and Brit decided to try again. We are going to have another chat of Vol. 10 this Friday. March 30th at 9:00 PM EST. We will chat and we will have a trivia challenge, since we couldn't the last time. Looking forward to chatting  Sailor Moon Manga Club 2017/2018 [Archived] - Page 8 1984953407


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