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PostSubject: Re: [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal   [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal - Page 2 I_icon_minitime7th January 2015, 7:41 pm

yay spread the happiness!!  [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal - Page 2 1984953407
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PostSubject: Re: [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal   [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal - Page 2 I_icon_minitime7th January 2015, 8:31 pm

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I'm sorry but I just don't get some of the comments on this page. I understand that some of you dislike Crystal or even hate it with a passion. That's perfectly fine of course - I myself hate a lot of things that others may like or love. But for goodness' sake, what's with the "Oh god, I hope not", "NO. JUST NO. This better not be a thing" and "I'm praying that it never gets the chance"? Some of us like Crystal (few of us, it's true, but there are a few who wish to see the whole series complete!) and I don't see how its very existence bothers you. If you don't like it then just stop watching. The old anime and the manga are still there; nothing about them is changing now that Crystal exists.

I just don't agree with this "I don't like it so it should stop existing" attitude.
You know what. You're right. I apologize for my comment before. Let me rephrase it now. I wish that Sailor Moon Crystal could become something me and its fans both enjoy. It's rather rude of me to wish that others be unhappy, even if it wasn't my intention.

That being said, I'm with ellephedre when I say that I would be content if it didn't exist anymore. It's frankly a waste of time for me.

Edit: I would be content personally,* not for the entire community. I should clarify that, haha. Also, if comments like "I wish this show didn't exist anymore" are enough to make you upset, you should probably reevaluate your position. Sailor Moon is a wonderful show, but criticism and attacks made toward it are not made to insult fans personally. The only people who should be angry are Toei Animation and Takeuchi herself.


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PostSubject: Re: [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal   [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal - Page 2 I_icon_minitime7th January 2015, 8:36 pm

I personally am looking forward to new animation for the remaining three arcs. Even if I end up disliking or being disappointed by what they do with the Dream Arc, I would still like to have the opportunity to have those feelings and make those decisions.
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PostSubject: Re: [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal   [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal - Page 2 I_icon_minitime7th January 2015, 10:23 pm

Hey everyone, just wanted to remind you all to please be kind to one another.  Refer to the first rule of the forums:

1. Be Respectful.
Treat every one fairly, and just be pleasant.

We all know there are varying opinions of Crystal, and although it is everyone's right to express their opinion, lets all remember to do this is a respectful manner.  

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Personally I'm happy to see that Crystal is getting more episodes. Maybe it will be better and even if it's not, it's still something. I've said that for being over 20 years now that we're getting a new anime should be a happy thing even if you didnt like it. This will bring new moonies into the folds of our great community.

Basically we get more friends. And to me that's worth it.
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I'm actually overjoyed.  I'd waited so long for this.  I don't care about the little changes... Crystal helps me get through my day often. I do agree about animation though. Hopefully it gets better.
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PostSubject: Re: [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal   [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal - Page 2 I_icon_minitime8th January 2015, 12:18 am

they just need a curve like everyone else, find their stride and i'm sure it will get better. Everything worth having is worth waiting for.
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PostSubject: Re: [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal   [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal - Page 2 I_icon_minitime8th January 2015, 5:46 am

I personally would be happy to see more episodes of Crystal. I know that most of the community don't like it but I really enjoy it. I know that the animation isn't the best but maybe it gets better over the time xD

And I have to say that the first season of the 90s anime didn't knock my socks off either (please don't hate me for that xD). I started watching Sailor Moon in the middle of the second season and I was like: Whoa! But when I finished it I had to watch the first season because I had to know how everything began. And to be honest I wasn't so delighted (once again, please don't hate me for that Very Happy)

I admit that there were some things they could have done better, it's really a pity that Usagi can't do anything without Mamoru and it's sad how the other characters fade into the background. But all in all I like Crystal and I don't mind if they continue the story because there were some passages in the manga I just liked more than the way they did it in the 90s anime and I'd love to see how they implement them in Crystal.

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Princess Moon wrote:
I admit that there were some things they could have done better, it's really a pity that Usagi can't do anything without Mamoru and it's sad how the other characters fade into the background. But all in all I like Crystal and I don't mind if they continue the story because there were some passages in the manga I just liked more than the way they did it in the 90s anime and I'd love to see how they implement them in Crystal.
Your grammar is fine! Awesome post. : D

This is why I really don't want to continue watching Crystal (though I do for my blog posts, which are so much fun to write). The inner senshi have been boiled down to a hivemind of characters. How are viewers unfamiliar with Sailor Moon supposed to feel something when certain events happen in the Black Moon arc? The first season was Toei's opportunity to really do something powerful with the inner senshi, but they focused on the failed plot with the Shitennou instead.

Put simply, I'm not sure how the rest of Sailor Moon Crystal will fair when the foundation of the story is already ruined. Even if they were to adapt every chapter perfectly from now on, it still wouldn't be perfect with what we already have. Still, if Toei Animation were to get people who gave a care to do S and beyond, I would be in love.
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Your grammar is fine! Awesome post. : D

Really? Glad to hear that xD
As long as you can understand me everything's perfect :'D

Sailor CJ wrote:
This is why I really don't want to continue watching Crystal (though I do for my blog posts, which are so much fun to write). The inner senshi have been boiled down to a hivemind of characters. How are viewers unfamiliar with Sailor Moon supposed to feel something when certain events happen in the Black Moon arc? The first season was Toei's opportunity to really do something powerful with the inner senshi, but they focused on the failed plot with the Shitennou instead.

Put simply, I'm not sure how the rest of Sailor Moon Crystal will fair when the foundation of the story is already ruined. Even if they were to adapt every chapter perfectly from now on, it still wouldn't be perfect with what we already have. Still, if Toei Animation were to get people who gave a care to do S and beyond, I would be in love.


Yeah I have to agree that they really ruined some parts.
I don't remember so many things from the first arc but in my memories the characters in the manga weren't so developed as well (if I'm wrong I'm sorry for that but these are the rests of my memories about the first arc Very Happy ). Admittedly it was better than in Crystal but not so much like in the 90s anime. Just let's be optimistic that they'll change in the Black Moon arc!

Okay, I can't say anything against it :'D They really can't undo the flaws they made. But I wouldn't say that the first arc was a complete failure. I personally often enjoyed it - in the last episodes I even had to cry Very Happy
Am I so strange that I'm the only one who really likes it? xD
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Of course I also wish they'd pay more attention (and money) to future episodes/seasons. Crystal right now is far from perfect. BUT to me, personally, SMC is more of a summary of Sailor Moon - an abridged version, if you want. It follows the manga panel-by-panel in about 75-80% of its runtime and apart from the animation errors and a few things deleted or changed, it pretty much suffers from things the manga also had.

In fact, following the manga so closely is probably what made Crystal unlikeable to many of its anti-fans. Personally I read the manga twice (a while ago, it's true, but I still did go through the material) and STILL my Usagi was the Usagi in the old anime: a bit more selfless and innocent than manga and Crystal Usagi. THAT Usagi would not've tried to kill herself when her planet and the life of her friends were at stake; just because her boyfriend died. So it does bother me that she did it in Crystal, but I do understand that my image of Usagi and this Usagi are different characters.

Anyway. As for the renewal rumors... I tweeted the French dude who originally said that France was going to air SMC. I asked if he knew whether it was for 52 episodes or 26, and he said he didn't have info on that but that he knew (or thought?) that it was going to be 26.

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So... Maybe this means nothing but I'm still not very convinced that the Portuguese didn't just mix up some things.
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I want S, SuperS, and Stars crystallized! I like to see different versions of a show I like a lot and I am a huge fan of the manga. Sure it might not be that great but I wouldn't really mind.  [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal - Page 2 190603310
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I like your use of "Crystallized"   [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal - Page 2 190603310
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Oh My Gosh!! I'm SUPERRR excited to hear that the WHOLE manga will be in Crystal!! <3 <3 <3 

*awww* Crystal is nice in many many ways.. its quite sad for me when I realise so many dislike it Sad but then again, at the end of the day...

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leohamasaki wrote:
to put more effort and more time in producing the future


more effort? yes. more time? hell no. it's already a shame to get such lowbudget episodes every 2 - 3 weeks while anime normaly air weekly
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Did anyone find any additional information on this, or is it still simply a rumor?
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I'm really excited for this. While Crystal can be frustrating, I love it.  Even with some wonky bits and parts of the story that came off funny, it's a fun show that has made me excited about SM again

I have always actually HATED the way that the 90's anime did SuperS and Stars and have wanted them to redo it for years
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I want SMC to continue through the manga...true, the animation is a bit strange, in my opinion, but I love the lack of filler fluff that ran rampant through the original.
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Cosmos-Hime wrote:
Did anyone find any additional information on this, or is it still simply a rumor?
According to the official Sailor Moon site, Toei is planning a special live event next month where they're going to make some major announcement which fans are speculating will the be the announcement of the Infinity arc being adapted but that's all I know of as far as I'm aware.
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Neon Genesis wrote:
Cosmos-Hime wrote:
Did anyone find any additional information on this, or is it still simply a rumor?
According to the official Sailor Moon site, Toei is planning a special live event next month where they're going to make some major announcement which fans are speculating will the be the announcement of the Infinity arc being adapted but that's all I know of as far as I'm aware.
It might also be about the next musical. Either of the two would make me happy but I kinda wish it's about Crystal - I'm already sure there will be more musicals so I'm not that worried about those Razz
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Well, the musical has been announced in this thread, so I really hope it's Infinity episodes!!!


Also, the date of the March announcements mentioned two posts up is Saturday, March 21st. 

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Tbh, following Crystal for the months that it's been out, I don't find the animation as bad as everyone is saying that it is. All you ever see is it being slated ALL OVER the net. But, it's not that bad. Let's take a look at the 90s anime. If you properly rewatch that it's almost as if the writers went: hah, proportion, what's that?

The animation between the two versions is no better than each other.

I personally love Crystal and would LOVE to see it get more episodes. I would adore it if we get as far as the asteroid senshi. Omg, imagine the merch. ASTEROID SENSHI MERCH OMG!! <3
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PallasMercury wrote:
Tbh, following Crystal for the months that it's been out, I don't find the animation as bad as everyone is saying that it is. All you ever see is it being slated ALL OVER the net. But, it's not that bad. Let's take a look at the 90s anime. If you properly rewatch that it's almost as if the writers went: hah, proportion, what's that?

The animation between the two versions is no better than each other.

I personally love Crystal and would LOVE to see it get more episodes. I would adore it if we get as far as the asteroid senshi. Omg, imagine the merch. ASTEROID SENSHI MERCH OMG!! <3
Okay you got me there. The would be a butt-ton of merch. That would be awesome.
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I personally don't understand everybody's intense hatred toward the show. From what I'm remembering it appears that the show is extremely close to the Manga Adaption. Yes, the animation has some very odd errors and the story does not align completely. We all knew going into this that the animation is not going to be the same as the original. 

I love seeing the characters come to life and show the plot in a different way. The original series had a ton of fillers and comedy which I feel most people have become used to. This series is fast paced which is how the manga was.

Please, I understand a lot of your frustrations, but I would love to see every arc animated for us to watch. I'm a huge Queen Nehelenia fan as you all know and I don't expect to see the same screen time she got in the original series because she did not appear much in the manga. 

If you don't want to see more of it then feel free to stop watching it. Quite simple.
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If you don't want to see more of it then feel free to stop watching it. Quite simple.
It goes a lot deeper than this.

Personally, I watch SMC for my anime and manga blog. It's fun to write about and talk about. For the average Sailor Moon fan though, Sailor Moon Crystal is what's new to talk about. If fans excuse themselves from the show just because they don't like it, they're suddenly ejected from the conversation too.

That being said, many Sailor Moon fans have stopped watching it because they don't like it, as evidenced by the staggering drop in viewers it has had. I think that the most recent post about it had episodes 10 and 11 at 100k versus the first episode's one million viewers.

From the atrociously bad animation errors to some plot changes that went nowhere in their development, it's more of a surprise to me that so many of us have stuck around. That being said though, if they keep up the trend of quality that they've had toward these past two episodes, I would change my wish to be that it continues from the Black Moon arc.
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^True. Though so far, even though the animation isn't the best, they seem to be doing well with the plot. This most recent episode was extraordinarily well paced and kept well loved elements found in both the classic anime and the manga. I thought it was a healthy blend. Considering I've lost all hope in the animation department, let's hope they stay the course of the storyline as the plot thickens.
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That fact that they're going to be airing it on TV and have been working on the animation in preparation for it gives me hope that if they do future arcs the animation and storytelling will possibly be better. Looking at the improvements to the recent animation just really makes me wish they would have just aired the show on TV in the first place so we wouldn't have had to go through all of this.

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I also believe the TV ratings will play a part in determining if we get more seasons since the online ratings have been so low.
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PostSubject: Re: [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal   [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal - Page 2 I_icon_minitime24th February 2015, 3:43 pm

Well waddya know, they were improving. And I think airing it on TV would have been better-though the rest of us would have probably needed to wait on fansubs in order to watch it.
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PostSubject: Re: [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal   [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal - Page 2 I_icon_minitime24th February 2015, 3:47 pm

I think they could of still aired it online. They could of just aired the TV version first and then air the online version a day later or something.
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PostSubject: Re: [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal   [Rumor] Arcs beyond 26 episodes of Crystal - Page 2 I_icon_minitime24th February 2015, 4:36 pm

Sailor CJ wrote:
Lust wrote:
If you don't want to see more of it then feel free to stop watching it. Quite simple.
It goes a lot deeper than this.

Personally, I watch SMC for my anime and manga blog. It's fun to write about and talk about. For the average Sailor Moon fan though, Sailor Moon Crystal is what's new to talk about. If fans excuse themselves from the show just because they don't like it, they're suddenly ejected from the conversation too.

That being said, many Sailor Moon fans have stopped watching it because they don't like it, as evidenced by the staggering drop in viewers it has had. I think that the most recent post about it had episodes 10 and 11 at 100k versus the first episode's one million viewers.

From the atrociously bad animation errors to some plot changes that went nowhere in their development, it's more of a surprise to me that so many of us have stuck around. That being said though, if they keep up the trend of quality that they've had toward these past two episodes, I would change my wish to be that it continues from the Black Moon arc.

You literally just said that many Sailor Moon fans have stopped watching it because they don't like it. That's exactly what I said to do.
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