| | [Critique requested] Ideas for possible sequel to my Future Reunion doujinshi | |
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mangaka-chan Lotus Crystal
Title : GC's Official Helios/Chibi Usa shipper Posts : 814 Join date : 2013-04-09 Location : Sunny California
| Subject: [Critique requested] Ideas for possible sequel to my Future Reunion doujinshi 20th September 2016, 12:42 am | |
| For the last couple of years I’ve been working on a doujinshi called Future Reunion, featuring a grown up Chibi Usa and a reborn Helios set in the 30th century. For almost as long as I’ve been working on Future Reunion I’ve also been thinking about a possible sequel to FR because my Muse, when she gets going, tends to go at a million miles an hour. I’ve been quietly fiddling with this sequel while working on Future Reunion, but I’ve hit a bit of a writer’s block regarding certain elements of the plot. I was hesitant about sharing my ideas openly because invariably talking about the sequel to FR would involve spoilers to FR, and I don’t want to spoil the experience and surprise for readers. However, I feel like I’ve come to a point where if I don’t talk about the plot with other people I’m going to remain stuck forever, and the frustration is driving my Muse crazy. So, if you don’t mind spoilers or if you’re willing to help poor me clear the dreaded gridlock of writer’s block by giving me some suggestions and ideas, I invite you to read what I have so far for the sequel to Future Reunion. I just ask anyone who comment to please use spoiler tags, so as to not spoil the story for current and future readers. Thanks!- Spoiler:
The premise of the Future Reunion sequel, like Future Reunion itself, is going to mirror elements of the original manga. Just like how the Black Moon arc opens with a mysterious child dropping out of the sky, the same thing happens to Chibi Usa and Shou (Helios’ civilian identity). Only this time, the child that falls out of the sky is not a little girl, but is instead a blonde haired little boy, accompanied by a cockatiel. He introduces himself as Sol, and asks Chibi Usa if she is a princess of the white moon line, which only further flummox an already confused Chibi Usa (i.e. her identity is supposed to be a secret, but this strange child just called her identity in public). I don’t have a complete time line of events planned out yet, but the boy’s true identity is Surya, the Guardian Priest to Queen Serenity.
Now, I won’t go into much further details (I have to keep some cards close to my chest, right?), but a conundrum I have with Surya is that I don’t want him to reveal his true identity right off the bat. Much like how Chibi Usa didn’t tell anyone she’s from the future until she had to, I want to save Surya’s true identity for later, but in the mean time there’s the sticky problem of why he won’t reveal his true identity. I thought about using the same reason as Chibi Usa, namely the enemy knows he’s here, and they may come after him. But I feel like that’s kind of a weak reason, and that it just screams author’s convenience.
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| | | Chmia Lotus Crystal
Title : Leg Lamp Power, Make Up! Posts : 8262 Join date : 2011-10-01 Age : 35 Location : San Antonio, Texas
| Subject: Re: [Critique requested] Ideas for possible sequel to my Future Reunion doujinshi 20th September 2016, 5:19 am | |
| How old is Surya, roughly? He could be too scared or maybe he is worried telling them will hurt his/their future in some way.
Depending on his personality and what happened to make him come to the past, perhaps he wants to fix everything by himself, so he doesn't want to tell them, because he doesn't want want Shou and Chibiusa helping him. I feel like this one also opens up some opportunities for character development.
Is the cockatiel like Luna and Artemis? Lol, maybe the cockatiel told him not to. |
| | | mangaka-chan Lotus Crystal
Title : GC's Official Helios/Chibi Usa shipper Posts : 814 Join date : 2013-04-09 Location : Sunny California
| Subject: Re: [Critique requested] Ideas for possible sequel to my Future Reunion doujinshi 20th September 2016, 10:22 am | |
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- LunaHow old is Surya, roughly? He could be too scared or maybe he is worried telling them will hurt his/their future in some way.
Depending on his personality and what happened to make him come to the past, perhaps he wants to fix everything by himself, so he doesn't want to tell them, because he doesn't want want Shou and Chibiusa helping him. I feel like this one also opens up some opportunities for character development.
Is the cockatiel like Luna and Artemis? Lol, maybe the cockatiel told him not to.
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Mmm, I would say he looks about the same age as Chibi Usa when she first showed up in the Black Moon arc, so around 6-7 years old? Here's a preliminary design I drew for Sol/Surya. Thing is, this child-like form isn't his true form. His true self is a young man, probably around 18-20 (I don't have a design for him in mind yet, so there's no picture to show, unfortunately). I'd say his personality, both as a child and as his true, adult form is mature and measured, though he can also be a little grouchy and snarky. Surya, is not from the future, but is actually lined to the distant past, specifically, to Queen Serenity, ruler of the Silver Millennium. Like I said earlier, he was Queen Serenity's guardian priest, much like how Helios is Endymion's guardian priest. Here's what I have so far regarding his backstory and my thought process for his character:
Given that we know very little about the role of guardian priests in Sailor Moon, this sequel is an opportunity for me to explore this little explored area of Sailor Moon lore. My idea regarding guardian priests is that they are born via the power of their star, and like how sailor guardians are always female, guardian priests are always male. They are born on the planet with the most abundant life within their planetary system and their task is to watch over that previous life and help guide and protect it. Guardian priests, because they are born from the earth itself, have no blood relatives, and are instead watched over by a sacred beast (this is an idea I got from Twelve Kingdoms). For Helios this is Pegasus, while for Surya it is Garuda, the little cockatiel whose true form is a giant, majestic eagle. The life of a guardian priest is linked to the planet and the star that sired them, and their life span is also proportional to the life span of a star. A red dwarf is a very long-lived star, longer than our Sun, so Surya is literately millions of years old, compared to the thousand year average life span of the ordinary white moon folk. He had seen many rulers in his time, and with that long life span he has grown rather detached and distant from people. When he first meets Serenity he’s surprised by her lingering presence around him and her curiosity about him (I imagine a young Queen Serenity is similar to Princes Serenity in many ways: friendly, sincere, curious, and maybe a little naive). At first he’s a little annoyed by the “sapling”, a nickname he gives to precocious youths, but gradually he warms up to her, and they become a good pair as ruler and adviser. During the centuries they spent together, the two of them gradually start to develop feelings for one another, but Surya kept his feelings buried, only letting his deepening affection for his liege peep through in small gestures. He feels that their missions are different, and that as someone who is so long lived compared to Serenity he knows he will out live her, and he isn’t sure if he could go on living for another million years without her if she loved him back. Serenity is aware of his quandary, and so did not want to put him in a spot and confess her feelings to him. So both of them kept their feelings bottled up for many years, even as a dark force began to silently infiltrate their world. A splinter of Chaos, a dark star called Rahu, had infiltrated and attacked her world. Despite her power, Queen Serenity was unable to save her planet, as Rahu seeks the energy of stars, and had drained their system’s parent star, causing it to disintegrate in a destructive supernova. To give her and the remaining survivors a chance to escape, Surya used all of his strength to seal the enemy. In their last moment together, Serenity kisses Surya, afterward Surya sends Serenity away to safety as their star explodes, destroying the remnant of their planet, and presumably killing Surya. But to Surya’s surprise, he did not die. What’s more, when he opens his eyes again he finds that he’s in the body of a child, and Rahu, whom he had sealed away, had escaped. Surya chases after Rahu, and he ends up on Earth.
Once on Earth he watches over and tries to protect Chibi Usa, knowing she is a descendant of Serenity, and is critical of Shou/Helios, because he feels it's not appropriate for guardian priests such as themselves to become romantically involved with their liege. This is also sort of where my conundrum begins. I think Surya can sense that Chibi Usa is related to Serenity, and he would want to warn Neo Queen Serenity of Rahu, but I don’t want Surya to reveal his true identity immediately, or tell them everything right away. However, this is illogical, because it would make the most sense if Surya divulged everything he knows immediately, instead of hiding things from Chibi Usa and the others. The only idea I have right now for why he would keep secrets from everyone is that Rahu and his minions knows Surya is here on Earth, and he didn’t want to reveal his true identity, least they find him. However, I’m not very satisfied with this explanation, as it reeks of author’s convenience.
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| | | Professor Tomoe Inner Senshi Admin Activities Director
Title : Formerly Aurae; The Galaxy Cauldron Forums' Official Professor Tomoe Posts : 6250 Join date : 2013-07-23 Location : Chicago
| Subject: Re: [Critique requested] Ideas for possible sequel to my Future Reunion doujinshi 20th September 2016, 12:16 pm | |
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So what if he actually cannot say it? Maybe there's a curse or something on him that prohibits him from directly divulging information?
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| | | mangaka-chan Lotus Crystal
Title : GC's Official Helios/Chibi Usa shipper Posts : 814 Join date : 2013-04-09 Location : Sunny California
| Subject: Re: [Critique requested] Ideas for possible sequel to my Future Reunion doujinshi 20th September 2016, 12:36 pm | |
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So what if he actually cannot say it? Maybe there's a curse or something on him that prohibits him from directly divulging information?
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I thought about that too, but the thing is, I was thinking Surya, like Helios, is able to travel within the dream realms. So even if he couldn't speak in real life, I think he would be able to do so while he's in the dream realm? The one thing that can make this work though, is that one of the antagonists I have in mind was a former guardian priest, and has all of the same ability as Helios and Surya, and the co-villain he works with is a sorceress-like character, who could cast spells. So if they work together, I think they might be able to put a curse on Surya, but the question remains: why would they do that? In my mind Surya tried to prevent them from going after Serenity and sealed them within a pocket dimension with himself. So if they were trying to disable him, I feel like trying to kill him rather than curse him would've been far more effective.
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| | | Professor Tomoe Inner Senshi Admin Activities Director
Title : Formerly Aurae; The Galaxy Cauldron Forums' Official Professor Tomoe Posts : 6250 Join date : 2013-07-23 Location : Chicago
| Subject: Re: [Critique requested] Ideas for possible sequel to my Future Reunion doujinshi 20th September 2016, 12:59 pm | |
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Understandable. Maybe he's trying to see if he can solve it on his own? Just personal pride being a silencer? Doesn't want to have to tell them too much about himself? Isn't willing to share so much of his own past with these other people he doesn't know—perhaps is worried about getting to close to them, as he got to Serenity, and losing them as well?
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| | | mangaka-chan Lotus Crystal
Title : GC's Official Helios/Chibi Usa shipper Posts : 814 Join date : 2013-04-09 Location : Sunny California
| Subject: Re: [Critique requested] Ideas for possible sequel to my Future Reunion doujinshi 20th September 2016, 1:40 pm | |
| - Aurae wrote:
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Understandable. Maybe he's trying to see if he can solve it on his own? Just personal pride being a silencer? Doesn't want to have to tell them too much about himself? Isn't willing to share so much of his own past with these other people he doesn't know—perhaps is worried about getting to close to them, as he got to Serenity, and losing them as well?
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Mmm, I can't really see that, to be honest. :\ If Helios is anything to go by, guardian priests are very protective of their charges, and would readily risk their own well being to protect their liege and their planet. If anything, I think it would make more sense for Surya to want to let them know what is going on asap. The only alternative I can think of is him trying to keep a low profile, least the enemy becomes aware that he has arrived on Earth. But still, that doesn't explain why he wouldn't at least give a warning to Neo Queen Serenity, given that he knows this enemy is capable of wiping out a whole star system. Maybe he could warn them, but withhold information about his own background? But I can't see why Chibi Usa or the Quartet wouldn't whittle it out of him, since they would have a hard time trusting him when they have no idea who or what he is.
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| | | Professor Tomoe Inner Senshi Admin Activities Director
Title : Formerly Aurae; The Galaxy Cauldron Forums' Official Professor Tomoe Posts : 6250 Join date : 2013-07-23 Location : Chicago
| Subject: Re: [Critique requested] Ideas for possible sequel to my Future Reunion doujinshi 20th September 2016, 1:54 pm | |
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You're making it awfully hard for him to not say anything. ;D
On a less-unhelpful note, would it be possible to literally interrupt him?
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| | | mangaka-chan Lotus Crystal
Title : GC's Official Helios/Chibi Usa shipper Posts : 814 Join date : 2013-04-09 Location : Sunny California
| Subject: Re: [Critique requested] Ideas for possible sequel to my Future Reunion doujinshi 20th September 2016, 10:10 pm | |
| Thinking about it some more, Aurae, I'm starting to think maybe the pride idea just might work. - Spoiler:
Developing Helios as a character is one of my goals for the sequel, and Surya will be one of two characters that will act as foils for Helios. We know Helios took his duty to protect Endymion and Elysion very seriously, and was willing to put his life on the line. His dedication to his duty would become a hindrance in the sequel story, as he becomes torn between his love for Chibi Usa and the knowledge that his role is to advise and guide her. His conflict is only further aggravated by the fact that Chibi Usa some times acts childishly (e.g. wanting to go to an amusement park with him after school when she should be studying for high school entrance exams), and Shou finds himself torn between wanting to be strict with her and making her happy by giving her what she wants. (I also want to mirror his struggle between his sense of duty and his heart in a subplot related to how his family expects him, as the only heir, to study business and take over the family company, when Shou would rather study classical literature and go into academia. But that's a whole other plot line that doesn't necessarily factor into this discussion.)
Surya’s role as a foil will be as someone who decided to follow his sense of duty rather than his heart. Like Helios, he takes his duties very seriously, and the fact that Rahu and its minions took him by surprise and invaded his home is a sore point for him. He tries to compensate for his past failure by sealing the dreamscape entrance that Rahu and his minions used previously to enter his planet. Little does he know that he’s already too late, and the enemy had already started to quietly make their move. It’s only after the first monsters appear that Surya realizes it’s too late (this would be the manga canon’s equivalent of when Chibi Usa reveals she’s from the future), and swallowing his pride, tells the others who he really is and why he is here. The difference I see with the manga is that instead of dragging this out for three chapters, the reveal of Surya’s identity will come quicker. Surya’s pride and his attempt to redeem his failure shows that blindly following any one path without considering the alternatives can have disastrous consequences.
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| | | Professor Tomoe Inner Senshi Admin Activities Director
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| Subject: Re: [Critique requested] Ideas for possible sequel to my Future Reunion doujinshi 21st September 2016, 5:30 am | |
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I'm glad that you were able to come up with an idea that fits your story without feeling forced! I always enjoy a good foil in writing, and I think what you've proposed positions Surya and Shou nicely for this purpose.
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