Neon Genesis Star Seed
Posts : 881 Join date : 2012-07-14
| Subject: Sailor Moon and Disney's Frozen (major spoilers for SMR & Frozen)? 24th February 2015, 9:50 pm | |
| I wasn't sure if this belonged in the 90s anime forum or the debate forum, so I hope this is the right place for this topic. What are your thoughts on this meme? As a fan of both Sailor Moon and Frozen, the meme is cute and all and I think there are some similarities between Berthier and Elsa's designs, but I feel like the meme is exaggerating the similarities a bit. Petz and Calaveras took advantage of Berthier but I don't recall them trying to control her and the situation between them and the situation with Elsa and her family and how Elsa's family treats her in Frozen is entirely different. I'm pretty sure Berthier's powers don't come from her gloves and the show never says she uses her gloves to control them. I always thought her powers came from the Black Crystal? I think Berthier trying to kill herself with her ice powers is a lot different of a situation than Elsa using her ice powers to make her a new home to live in. The comparison between Koan and Anna seems too generalized again and I'm not sure if you could say Koan barely knew Rubeus since they all seemed to know each other from the future. It also seems a bit of a stretch to me to point to Toei doing outsourced work for Disney on one of their direct to video films as proof as Disney used Asian studios for the outsourced animation in their direct to video films all the time and so I don't think there's anything particularly special about this connection. I do think there are some legitimate instances where Disney has ripped off of anime, the most famous examples being The Lion King and Kimba the White Lion and Disney's Atlantis ripping off Nadeisco but I think this one is an exaggeration. Again, the only similarities I can really see between Berthier and Elsa are their outfits and hairstyles but it should also be pointed out that Frozen has been in the works at Disney since at least their early Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs day when Walt Disney was still alive. I also think if Frozen did rip off Sailor Moon, we would be seeing more people in Japan being critical of it yet Frozen is a huge hit in Japan and is like the highest selling non-Japanese movie in Japan at the moment, so the Japanese don't seem to be too bothered by it. This meme is cute and all but I've seen this meme being passed around online as a serious argument before: |
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Cosmos-Hime Moderator
Title : ミ☆ GC's official Sailor Cosmos! ミ☆ Posts : 12832 Join date : 2014-11-14 Age : 31 Location : ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon and Disney's Frozen (major spoilers for SMR & Frozen)? 24th February 2015, 10:00 pm | |
| I say coincidence. Frozen was based of some fairytale that is centuries old. |
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SayakaSakura Pyramidal Crystal
Title : Puella Magi|Alicorn Princess (also Demande's official fangirl <3) Posts : 3156 Join date : 2014-09-12 Age : 22 Location : Labyrinth of Oktavia von Seckendorff
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon and Disney's Frozen (major spoilers for SMR & Frozen)? 24th February 2015, 10:00 pm | |
| I've seen that meme floating around Tumblr recently. The meme is cute and i always like to headcanon Elsa and Berthier meeting each other (hence my "Real Elsa" bumper) Also, there's this: |
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Slowpokeking Star Seed
Posts : 15 Join date : 2018-08-16
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon and Disney's Frozen (major spoilers for SMR & Frozen)? 16th August 2018, 8:08 pm | |
| The first time I saw Elsa, I felt like I've seen her somewhere before. And I didn't realize it till like 2-3 years ago. |
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