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PostSubject: [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories?   [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories? I_icon_minitime10th April 2016, 5:47 pm

Was Luna really supposed to awaken Usagi's memories? It seems when Queen Serenity died, she sent her daughters and everyone else to the future for a quiet, more peaceful life and a safe and normal one. Kind of can't have a normal existence if you're a Senshi and battling the enemy constantly. 

What do you guys think? Was Luna drawn to Usagi because of her power and mistook her for a senshi or was she supposed to awaken her, but not as a senshi, but as their Princess?
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PostSubject: Re: [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories?   [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories? I_icon_minitime10th April 2016, 5:59 pm

Maybe she wasn't really supposed to, but because the Dark Kingdom was happening, she felt she had to.
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PostSubject: Re: [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories?   [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories? I_icon_minitime10th April 2016, 6:22 pm

Usagi is the Princess, she was never a warrior though.
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PostSubject: Re: [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories?   [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories? I_icon_minitime10th April 2016, 7:17 pm

This is a theory I brought up a some time ago, and I stick to this, I think Usagi wasn't meant to be sailor moon in the first place, Luna felt her powers and thought she could be one of the senshi, but instead luna created sailor moon, and that's why a future version of usagi (neo queen serenity) can't use her powers anymore, because she wasn't supposed to be sailor moon in the first place.
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PostSubject: Re: [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories?   [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories? I_icon_minitime10th April 2016, 7:50 pm

I think Luna wasn't supposed to awaken any of the Sailor Senshi except in the case of if the Dark Kingdom is revived (which it was). As far as the Sailor Moon thing, I always understood it that making her fight as a Soldier was in part to help protect her. Luna also had only half her memories (as if she had them all she would've known Usagi was the princess) and I think Artemis even apologizes to her for that? or at least not coming forward with her about the whole plan that was set up? Even though its not shown in the past, it seems it was planned to make her Sailor Moon because how else would Luna have all these brooches and wands and devices for her.
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PostSubject: Re: [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories?   [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories? I_icon_minitime10th April 2016, 7:54 pm

But why put the Princess in danger in the first place? Wouldn't it be safer to watch her from afar instead of putting her in situations where she could easily die?
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Because we wouldn't have a story. Probably as a way to train her to become stronger because it seemed the entire time, Sailor Venus and Artemis are looking at things from afar. also due to Luna's memories being distorted, she just believes Usagi is the leader of the Guardians who protect the Princess so there is that too.
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PostSubject: Re: [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories?   [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories? I_icon_minitime10th April 2016, 10:42 pm

I like to think that Serenity always wanted to fight alongside her senshi in SilMil, and when the reincarnation happened, the Silver Crystal recognized this wish.

I believe the plan was to allow the princess to defend herself (hence senshi powers and training) while having a decoy princess (Venus) try and distract/take away the attention of the enemy so Sailor Moon would never be in any real danger while still knowing how to defend/protect herself at the same time.
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PostSubject: Re: [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories?   [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories? I_icon_minitime11th April 2016, 5:42 am

That's a really good possibility. I wonder if the crystal altered Luna's memories to make her believe that Usagi was a senshi instead of the Princess.
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PostSubject: Re: [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories?   [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories? I_icon_minitime11th April 2016, 9:26 am

Addelyn wrote:
That's a really good possibility. I wonder if the crystal altered Luna's memories to make her believe that Usagi was a senshi instead of the Princess.


Or maybe it was all planned by the queen!!!  [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories? 1023433532

Seriously now, that's what I always thought, I've always believed the silver crystal can do more things that serenity or the queen can imagine.
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PostSubject: Re: [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories?   [Debate] Was Luna supposed to awaken Usagi's memories? I_icon_minitime11th April 2016, 1:42 pm

I like the idea that Sailor Moon wasn't supposed to exist. It would explain why Usagi is the least prepared to fight out of the group (I mean compare her first transformation night to Sailor V and you'll see what I mean). I can get on board with Luna's memories being fuzzy and her awakening Sailor Moon as a result. Maybe Sailor Moon was always a senshi that could exist if her royal guard failed. Like if the other senshi were somehow wiped out, then Sailor Moon could exist as a last resort, and that's why there were transformation items for her.

This theory has some definite holes though - if she wasn't awakened, how were they going to defeat the baddies without the ginzuishou? And why is Luna okay with the idea that Sailor V/Venus is the princess if the princess isn't supposed to fight (and she obviously has been)?
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xD The entirety of Sailor Moon has plotholes you can drive a truck, SUV, train and plane through xD Maybe even a space rocket if we're being devious. 

I think that Serenity wanted to fight with her guardians so when she died, the Crystal made it her wish that if they should be awoken as Guardians, she would be able to fight with them.
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It's hard to say, considering it was revealed that luna herself didn't have all of her memories in check in the first arc and only remembered that Usagi was the princess when usagi's memories awoke. My idea is that she was drawn to usagi as she was drawn to the other senshi, but she didn't remember which one the princess was/would be so she just had all four awaken as senshi.
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So this bares the question, since we know that Artemis didn't fully inform her of what was going on, did he know who Usagi was or have an idea and manipulated Luna into doing this?
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I think it's obvious that Artemis knows everything along with Venus. He was indeed manipulating Luna through the game center communication, he was hiding his identity and giving her orders until that time she caught him being the one speaking to her the entire time.
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Was it mentioned that they have all of their memories or just the majority?
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Not explicitly stated, but I do remember in PGSM it was said that Venus remembers the most about everything (more than the others). She also remembered all the SilMil stuff when she awakened as Venus in the Sailor V manga, enough to know about the true princess and the decoy plan. Artemis would know even earlier because he needed to guide Minako.

I think the other senshi never really quite remembered SilMil the way those two do. It was never shown that they do until they visit the Moon and are shown what happened rather than remembering it themselves, so I don't know if they ever even remembered at all? Maybe it happened gradually over time, but Venus and Artemis would always have the clearest memories. I believe they remember almost everything and that's why Venus is always portrayed as the most loyal to her duty.
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I think it's obvious that Artemis knows everything along with Venus. He was indeed manipulating Luna through the game center communication, he was hiding his identity and giving her orders until that time she caught him being the one speaking to her the entire time.
I think so too. And it was through that that they both planned the fake princess decoy thing, since the dark kingdom was hot on their tail.
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I don't think she was supposed to, but because Luna's memories were sealed too that's why she thought there was "Sailor Moon".
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