There maybe Sailors Ceres, Pallas, Juno, Vesta and Astarte...

but what about Vulcan and Nemesis?

Do they have Sailor Soldiers too? Did Ms Takeuchi forget or want us to speculate? Is Vulcan herself Sailor Vulcan? Is Wiseman, the equivalent of Sailor Nemesis in the same way Mamoru is the equivalent of Sailor Earth? Or has simply in the 20th Century, not all Sailor Soldiers had been awakened? Perhaps dark planets cannot have true Sailor Soldiers?

What does everyone think

:my opinion:

I think that in the future, a Sailor Vulcan and a Sailor Nemesis would have possibly awakened, just like how Sailor Moon didn't exist in the Silver Millennium.

Great topic!

I hypothesize that they would not have senshi in the future, as senshi are created to protect the life on a particular planet. As those dwarf planets never had life on them in the Silver Millennium, their senshi would not have been born in the first place, thus would never been reborn with the current bunch and would have no reason to be born in the future, the planet keeping the power of the sailor crystal within itself.
My thoughts on the current senshi are similar; if they had not been given the chance at rebirth from Queen Serenity, they, too, would not have been reborn a second time as the life on their planets had ended before current time and the planet would have no need to separate itself from its planetary star seed - the sailor crystal.

As far as the asteroid senshi go, I think they were a special case put into place by Queen Serenity as reserve senshi (... honestly, ((Kyralih headcanon warning)) I kinda think that Queen Serenity forcefully awakened the sailor crystals within all the planets in the solar system (minus Earth/Sun) for the sole reason to protect her daughter, and that the planets had not awakened their own senshi as there was no absolute statement within the SM manga that there was actually life on other planets -- they had castles, but it said nothing of their parents, their home courts, anything. I haven't read Sailor V yet, so this might be shot to pieces.... but yeah.)) and the senshi in the musicals are kinda AU in and of themselves, just as PGSM is.

As for no Sailor Moon in the Silver Millennium, I think it's because Queen Serenity was in control of their shared Sailor Crystal, thus Princess Serenity wouldn't be able to transform until Queen Serenity passed the crystal on, which, logically, would have happened when Princess Serenity would ascend the throne. Therefore, she would never have had the opportunity or chance to become Sailor Moon as she would go straight from Princess (no conscious control of Ginzuishou) to powerful Queen.


... also, this is a favorite topic of mine. ^^' I'm writing it all in a fanfic XD

But then you have Sailors Coronis, Mermaid, Galaxia, Kakyuu and so on, right?

They are definitely not connected to Queen Serenity... and besides according to Setsuna, Queen Serenity never knew Vulcan to be an actual planet... but a myth, although that's disproved when Vulcan and Death Vulcan come into the picture and Nemesis was unknown until the 30th century right?

Perhaps Sailor Senshi only awaken when they have a purpose?

Oh! I was just meaning that so far as Solar system senshi go. Through flashbacks and association with known characters, we know that the planets Coronis, Mermaid, and the homework of Kakyuu had lifeforms on them, so their senshi would awaken to protect those lifeforms.

and then Galaxia had pretty much just made a deal with the devil to get sailor powers, forcing a sailor crystal to awaken with the dark powers.


o.o what is Vulcan? Is it a musicals-onlyterm?


Wasn't planet Nemesis used as a prison planet in the 30th century, used because it was deserted and devoid of lifeforms? I think that if the prisoners lived there for longer, grew and loved the planet, Nemesis would have had its Sailor Crystal born into a new child born on the planet. ... but they were kinda anti-love. ^^'

and as Sailor Pluto was the daughter of a god, I think her position within the Silver Millennium court was more on terms of friendliness - she would be around regardless of whom did what wherever.

Vulcan is a planet from a musical between Mercury and the Sun. It manifested into two people, a nice woman and an evil man (amazing singers tho=ugh) who though it was a good idea to encourage ever because God isn't very good at his job. But it turns out he was just lonely and jealous of Usagi...

Nemesis wasn't really a prison was it, Neo-Queen Serenity did banish them there, but they did live there for quite some time. They weren't "imprisoned".

Is Pluto really a daughter of a God, that might be figurative because Artemis calls Minako the "daughter of Aphrodite" doesn't he?. I just meant Pluto said that even Queen Serenity didn't know everything bout her own Solar System.

^^' I just figured that since she banished them there and there was supposed to be no conceivable way for them to get back, it was pretty much a prison. xD Artistic/poetic license? lol.

I think it was stated at one point definitively that Sailor Pluto was the daughter of Chronos, the god of time; I haven't read Codename: Sailor V yet, but if Pluto is truly the daughter of Chronos, then Venus could totally be the daughter of Aphrodite... but, even then again, Queen Serenity tells them all that the people of Earth referred to her as Selene and called her a goddess; the simple fact that she stated that herself would suggest that she did not believe herself to be a goddess. ... so... you're completely right, the whole gods/goddesses thing is left super vague as to its place/reality in the sailor moon manga universe.
Though, even if everything else was said in speculative terms, it just has to be that Pluto is related to the god of time as she has such control over it... right?

And I wonder if when Pluto said that, that Queen Serenity didn't know everything about her own solar system, that it was Naoko's way of saying that she hadn't decided everything completely yet? XD sneaky.

or maybe Setsuna didn't want to admit SHE didn't know everyhing :3

^^ Nice, Pluto, nice.

i mean Setsuna pretends to be so allknowing and mysterious, maybe its just an act to get the younger girls to look up to her

I could totally see that, especially with having been alone for so long.

... and I think there were a few times in the manga when, humorously, the other senshi look at her and are like "Wait, what? Why didn't you know this?" and she's all "Oh... um... of course I knew that... yeah..." ... of course, that could have been anime inconsistencies that I just went "You! Pluto! How did you not know this was coming?"

Pluto's Answer: It is your destiny! *shifty eyes*

XD

I always believed for Nemesis, Wiseman/Chaos had poisoned the true senshi of the planet so the whole planet became poisoned from the Dark Crystals over the years. In the Manga it showed the senshi are connected with their Planet, well thats how I took it from Mamoru, he was weakening when Earth was weakening from different things.
So I took it senshi of Nemesis was poisoned and just there lifeless on the planet and a reason to awaken, reawaken is always a plus.

Sailor Senshi all come from the Galaxy Cauldron from the light of star seed. Think of them as created from light and love. On Nemesis, there was no love or light since it was poisoned by Wiseman/Chaos. You might also think of it as that the Sailor Senshi for Vulcan may not have been born yet as well. Just a thought.

I don't think Sailor Soldiers are necessarily created from light and love: Sailor Chaos for example. And Sailor Soldiers have been shown frequently to not be soldiers of justice and light. (Animamates, Shadow Galactica, Possessed Sailor Soldiers) In fact it seems only a few chosen Sailor Soldiers such as Moon and Kakyuu actually have the ability to purify things...

There's actually an argument for Sailor Astarte herself being the Soldier of Vulcan. or even Vulcan herself being the equivalent of a Sailor Vulcan. Or even that Vulcan and Death Vulcan are two halves of a broke Soldier.

As far as sailor pluto goes I don't think she's allowed to tell the outcome even though she alreadyb knows even though the future could change.