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PostSubject: German School System   German School System I_icon_minitime26th August 2015, 11:35 am

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Some people like it, some don't - but everyone knows it: School!
I think, most of us here go to school/college/university as well - this is why I thought I could talk about the German school system. Could be interesting for the parties concerned, hm?

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Okay, let me start with the first years of education: day nursery, kindergarten and preschool.

There is actually not much to talk about. Most kids attend the day nursery in their first two years, then switch to kindergarten from for next two (3/4 years old) and then, with 5, they switch once again to preschool. Most of the time those three things are all together. Like the day nursery, kindergarten and preschool are in the same building.

However, this isn't always the case - sometimes it's three different addresses you have to go to. And then, some kids also don't attend any of these (we only have a limited number of slots and then, a few parents also don't want their kids to go there).

(No grades are given in these years - you only learn how to get along with other children)


Elementary school

Once preschool is over, things are getting tough. From elementary school on you have to go to school. In Germany there is a compulsory education, means if you don't attend school, you'll get in trouble with the law. So yeah, basically every child attends elementary school then.

Elementary school goes 4 years.
In the first grade you only learn reading, writing, addition and subtraction (oh, and the numbers up to 100). Also, in these time period you won't get any grades. The only thing you'll get is smilies.

Laughing smiley - the best you can get
Smiling smiley - second best
Meh smiley - still satisfying
Sad smiley - not satisfying anymore

From second grade, however, you'll get the normal grades then. Also, you'll have other classes from then on. For example I had something called general studies where we talked about things from the fields biology, geography, our environment, etc.
Also, at this point you'll start with small presentations, dictations, multiplying and dividing (and the numbers up to 1000)

For third and fourth grade there is not much to say. Basically the same topics but a bit more advanced, more numbers, harder arithmetic problems - such things.


Orientation stage

Okay, now it's getting a bit more complicated. Orientation stage is the fifth and sixth grade basically. And here you have two ways to get through this stage.

Regionalschule:
This is the most common way and the way how most students do it. They spend these two years in the Regionalschule.

Gymnasium (no, not the place where you do sports):
This only do a few students. You need to know...Gymnasium was made for smart student. So, to come to the point, the life at the Gymnasium is harder. And to get accepted for it in the orientation stage you need to take an intelligenze test.

If you have an IQ of 130 or higher, you'll get accepted and can spend your two years of orientation stage at the Gymnasium. Students who get accepted are "highly gifted" (that's how we call them).


The years after orientation stage

Regionalschule:
After these two years, you can still stay at the Regionalschule. However, the level in the Regionalschule is lower - means, you don't learn as much as you do at the Gymnasium (you learn the most important things, yes, but at the Gymnasium you get more extra information).
Also, if you want to graduate at the Regionalschule, you only have to go to school till tenth grade. However, then you only have a "mittlere Reife" graduation. This can be translated to "meh" graduation.

Gymnasium:
When you think you're smart enough for the Gymnasium, you can also transfer schools and attend this school type from then on (if you attended the Regionalschule before).
For this, you don't need a test anymore. However, the teachers will give you a recommendation if they think that you're smart enough for the Gymnasium. (You can also go without that recommendation but I saw it with others that they had really lots of problems then)

If you are "highly gifted", then it's only logical to stay at the Gymnasium. However, since you are "highly gifted", you won't be in one class with those who joined after transferring schools (those who transfer from Regionalschule to Gymnasium are only "gifted"). They'll stay in the same class as before, so that the "highly gifted" and the "gifted" will get the appropriate education (obviously, the highly gifted get some harder things than the gifted)


What happens after tenth grade?

Regionalschule:
You graduated. You're done with school. You have a "meh" graduation.

Gymnasium:
You still have two more years of school. These count as graduation preparation. After that you'll have your examinations and if you pass you graduated. You have your prom. You're done with school. You have the best graduation possible (called: Abitur).


Apprenticeship and college/university

Okay, so in Germany you can do two things to master a job: Start an apprenticeship or study at college/university.

How do I know if I should start an apprenticeship or go to college/university?
Well, that depends on the job you want to do. If you want to be a doctor, you have to go to university; if you want to study media design, you have to go to college; if you want to be a baker, you have to start an apprenticeship.

It really mostly depends on the job. Sometimes you also have the choice. For example: You can start an apprenticeship for graphic design; or you can study communication design with the main focus on graphics. It's basically for the same job. However, if you went to college/university, it always sounds better xD Plus, often you also get more money when you attended college/university.


Miscellaneous things

- the rules and laws for the school system vary from Federal state to Federal state (I can only talk about the things in my state, obviously)
- for example, in some states, you have 13 grades and not only 12 (you talk about the same things, but when you have 12 grades, it's more rushed than it is with 13 grades // 12 grades are more stressful)
- Other than "mittlere Reife" and "Abitur", you can also have the "Hauptschulabschluss" (leaving school after 9 years - worst graduation, I think)
- for most of the jobs here, you only get accepted with an "Abitur". So if you have "mittlere Reife" or "Hauptschulabschluss", you can't do much because most of the time you won't get accepted
- English class: In some schools it starts in first grade, in other schools it starts in third grade, in other schools it starts in fifth grade - it always depends
- Other foreign languages: Each school offers different foreign languages to learn. This always depends on if they have teachers for it. Most of the time they offer French and Spanish. And sometimes, when they have the teachers, they also offer Russian and Latin
- extracurricular activities: are offered in most schools (in my state, they just introduced a new law: Everyone under tenth grade has to be active in extracurricular activites - cruel, hm? Thank goodness, I'm eleventh grade xD)
- homeschooling isn't allowed


The German grading system

Okay, so we have:

1
2
3
4
5
6

These are our grades. I don't know, are you familiar with the American "A, B, C,..." system? Then you can easily compare the German grading system with that.

1 = A
2 = B
3 = C
4 = D
5 = (would be E then)
6 = F

Yes, we have something between 4 (D) and 6 (F) - and the 5 also counts as failed. I don't know why you have two grades for failing - failed is failed, after all - but we have it xD (Maybe to show you that you almost passed? xD)

And then we also have + and -
So B+, A-, C+, etc. We just don't have F+ and F- xD

Oh, and then, for 11th and 12th (and 13th) grade, we also have another grading system!

                    +          regular            -        
   1 = A     15      14      13
   2 = B     12      11      10
   3 = C      9       8       7
   4 = D      6       5       4
   5(= E)      3       2       1
   6 = F       0      
 
This is basically the conversion table. 15 points would be a 1+ (A+), 5 points would be a regular 4(D) and 7 points would be a 3- (C-) - does that make sense?

Anyway, this is the grading system for those in their graduation preparation.

Here, you can also find another conversion table that shows the comparison between German and American and British grading system:
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(I didn't mention the descriptor grades because we use them only rarely // also, as you can see, they showed the grading system for colleges/universities - I can't confirm that because I'm still a student at school xD But it should be right)


How to calculate your grade average (only for 1st to 10th grade):

1. Take all the grades you got in that class and add up the figures
2. Take the sum you got and divide it by the number of grades you got in total

Example:
Let's assume, these are my grades in math:
1 // 2 // 4 // 3 // 2 // 2 // 2

Now I start calculating. Step 1:
1 + 2 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 2 + 2
= 16

Step 2:
16 : 7 (because I got 7 grades)
= 2,285...

This will be rounded to 2 now. Means, at the end I'd get a 2 on my report card.
((when I have an average of .5, the teacher can decide which grade they want to give me))


S U M M A R Y:
- you have 12/13 years of school
- before that you attend day nursery, kindergarten and preschool
- after elementary school, there are two ways to continue your school career: Gymnasium (good intelligence test for acceptance needed) and Regionalschule
- after 6th grade, you can switch from Regionalschule to Gymnasium (if you didn't do so yet)
- Regionalschule gives you a "meh" graduation after 10 years; Gymnasium gives you the best graduation possible after 12/13 years
- for a "Hauptschulabschluss" you can leave Regionalschule/Gymnasium after ninth grade (no examinations needed) - there are also so-called "Hauptschulen" where school really ends after ninth grade (the niveau of these school isn't really high though)
- people with "meh" graduation and "Hauptschulabluss" have problems with finding a well-paid job
- if you need an apprenticeship or college/university graduation depends on the job
- we have a grading system similar to the American "A, B, C,..." system
- though the grading system changes for 11th and 12th (and 13th grade)

So, I personally like our school system. I think the idea of Regionalschule and Gymnasium is pretty good, giving everyone the chance to get the best education for them possible.
Those who need more time to learn can go to the Regionalschule while those who would be bored by the slow pace can attend the Gymnasium. I think it's a good way to give everyone a fair chance.

Granted, the chances of getting a job with "meh" graduation (the one you get at the Regionalschule) is pretty small. But still - it's more probable to get one with a good "meh" graduation than with a bad Abitur.
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What about you? What do you think about our school system? Are there any questions or comments you'd like to share with us? =)


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PostSubject: Re: German School System   German School System I_icon_minitime29th August 2015, 12:59 pm

What classes do you have as a German student?

I can't really answer that because it really depends on the Federal state (and its rules) and on the schools. Every school differs, really, and I can't really say that. However, these were my classes last year:

- German class (3 times a week)
- Math class (4 times a week)
- English class (4 times a week)
- Spanish class (3 times a week)
- Latin class (4 times a week)
- History class (twice a week)
- Politics class (once a week)
- Economics class (twice a week)
- Religion class (once a week)
- Geography class (twice a week)
- Biology class (once a week)
- Chemistry class (twice a week)
- Physics class (twice a week)
- Music class (once a week)
- Arts class (once a week)
- Physical Education (twice a week)
- StuO (on my school only - really not cool) (once a week)
- Klassenleiterstunde (time to talk with your teacher about organizational stuff) (once a week)

Also, I should note that one period goes 45 minutes from 7th till 10th grade (I say it again: in my school, that is)!

However, the schedule changes a lot once you come into the graduation preparation (11th and 12th grade): Instead of having around 20 classes, you're allowed to drop seven or eight, so that you can focus on only these classes. These are my new classes, for example:

German - advanced course (twice a week)
Math - advanced course (twice a week)
History - advanced course (twice a week)
English - advanced course (twice a week)
Biology - advanced course (twice a week)
Arts - advanced course (twice a week)
Religion (once a week)
Geography (once a week)
Politics (once a week)
Latin (once a week)
Sports (once a week)

Here, I should maybe mention that one period goes 90 minutes, instead of 45.

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PostSubject: Re: German School System   German School System I_icon_minitime1st September 2015, 10:22 pm

The biggest questions I have are:

Do people get in trouble with the law if they're sick?
How does Germany deal with people who have disabilities?

And yes, that is cruel that everyone under 10th grade has to be in an extra curricular activity!
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PostSubject: Re: German School System   German School System I_icon_minitime2nd September 2015, 12:19 am

Ah hey! xD Okay, so:

1. I can reassure - this is not the case Very Happy As long as your parents (or you when you're full-aged) call the school and let the school know you're sick, you're fine. However, if you don't do this, it's possible that you'll get in trouble (like if it happens once or twice, you're fine but at some point they'll get wary)

2. We have special needs schools (for students difficult to train), schools for students with learning disabilities and also schools for students who are mentally and physically disabled. People who have problems with speaking go to different schools too!

Ikr? I'm so lucky I'm above tenth grade xD
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PostSubject: Re: German School System   German School System I_icon_minitime2nd September 2015, 12:41 am

To me, it really doesn't make sense to require students (at any level) to participate in an extracurricular activity.  Because if I remember correctly, "extracurricular" means "beyond the normal curriculum".  But if you make it required, then it seems to be part of the normal curriculum!  Totally mind-boggling, isn't it?

But anyways, I have a question about the extracurricular activities a student can participate in.  In my high school (which was 9th to 12th grade where I went to school), there were quite a few different extracurricular activities.  If you were good at athletics (which I never was), you could participate in a team sport (like baseball or volleyball or even tennis).  Or, if you were good at a certain academic subject, there was probably an extracurricular activity for that (like Math Club or French Club).  There were also a few service-oriented extracurricular activities, where students basically served the community (I don't really know much about those because I never participated in them).

Anyway, my question is this : What types of extracurricular activities are available to a student in the German school system?  Which of the examples that I gave above are available?  Are there any other options for extracurricular activities (that I didn't list above)?  I would imagine that your exact choices vary from school to school, but do you have any idea of what options are typical?  If not, can you at least state what options are/were available at your school?
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PostSubject: Re: German School System   German School System I_icon_minitime2nd September 2015, 8:54 am

mercuryfan wrote:
To me, it really doesn't make sense to require students (at any level) to participate in an extracurricular activity.  Because if I remember correctly, "extracurricular" means "beyond the normal curriculum".  But if you make it required, then it seems to be part of the normal curriculum!  Totally mind-boggling, isn't it?

But anyways, I have a question about the extracurricular activities a student can participate in.  In my high school (which was 9th to 12th grade where I went to school), there were quite a few different extracurricular activities.  If you were good at athletics (which I never was), you could participate in a team sport (like baseball or volleyball or even tennis).  Or, if you were good at a certain academic subject, there was probably an extracurricular activity for that (like Math Club or French Club).  There were also a few service-oriented extracurricular activities, where students basically served the community (I don't really know much about those because I never participated in them).

Anyway, my question is this : What types of extracurricular activities are available to a student in the German school system?  Which of the examples that I gave above are available?  Are there any other options for extracurricular activities (that I didn't list above)?  I would imagine that your exact choices vary from school to school, but do you have any idea of what options are typical?  If not, can you at least state what options are/were available at your school?

Yeah, it's a new rule in my state and it's kinda stupid xD The rule itself doesn't say that extracurricular activities are required - however, it says that we're a full-time school now. And somehow the required extracurricular activities are a result of it xD I'm not sure tho - I have no idea of our law xD

Anyway, it's like you said - I can't really generalize that because each school is different but what I can say is this: The bigger the school, the more options you have xD My school is pretty tiny, for example, so we don't have that many options. But to answer your question, here are some examples of our options:

- Volleyball
- Basketball
- Badminton
- Chemistry tutoring
- Math tutoring
- German tutoring (meant for the refugees in first place)
- English tutoring
- English special tuition (for the smart ones)
- French special tuition (same thing xD)
- Polish
- Choir
- Drama club
- Computer club (I think, they're doing software stuff xD Not sure though xD)
(I don't know the rest because I don't participate in extracurricular activities xD)

And then we also have the student council and the paramedics group.
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PostSubject: Re: German School System   German School System I_icon_minitime3rd September 2015, 1:43 pm

Very interesting to read! I was really looking forward to this topic ^^ The smiley things in the first grade sound really fun. Lol. Also interesting grading system. I didn't know you learn spanish though :O I myself have two questions: I was wondering how do you learn and study? I mean you use notebooks, coursebooks, laptops or... :-? Also how do teachers teach? They come in each class and speak or...?
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PostSubject: Re: German School System   German School System I_icon_minitime3rd September 2015, 2:05 pm

I personally dropped Spanish - so no Spanish for me anymore mwahahahahahaha

Anyway, good questions, you have there xD

Okay, so during class, we got our folders and textbooks - the things the teacher writes on the board as well as some important stuff from the books will be written down in our folder. With these folder we then study for tests and exams - the most important things are written down there =)

However, what I should maybe add is that the teachers stop writing their stuff on the board from 11th grade on. You have to catch the most important things and write them down yourself. And if you missed something - your problem xD (just like it is in our universities xD)

And what the teachers do... Yeah, I think I already said that now xD They enter class and in
(1) grade 1-10 they write the most important things on the board (of course there are a few exceptions and teachers who don't do so xD)
(2) grade 11-12 they talk throughout class and expect you to catch the most important things. (of course here also are exceptions and teachers who keep writing everything on the board)

The use of the textbooks depends on the teacher and the book. Some books have good information, others don't. Some teachers like textbooks, others don't xD

From 10th grade on, you also slowly start to learn from your classmates and their presentations.
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PostSubject: Re: German School System   German School System I_icon_minitime7th September 2015, 10:09 am

I already knew most of this from things you've told me before, but this was still interesting! I got a better grasp of the difference between Regionalschule and Gymnasium xD Your 'smiley' grading scale made me laugh xD
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PostSubject: Re: German School System   German School System I_icon_minitime7th September 2015, 10:28 am

Ummm, excuse me? Our smileys are super cool xD

I present: My smileys from first grade:
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HAHAHA XD
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PostSubject: Re: German School System   German School System I_icon_minitime10th September 2015, 8:09 am

I heard that school in German is free or something - is this a thing or did I make that up?

"Meh" graduation xD

How difficult is it really to get into Gymnasium from personal experience?

I remember extracurriculars being mandatory in high school as well. I just picked the easiest ones cause I'm lazy xD I think I went with drawing once, and then a Teen Red Cross thing where we learn first aid stuff, and then a Science club though I suck at science may have joined it for personal embarrassing reasons

The 1 being the best confused me a little because we have the opposite thing here, with 10 or 100 being best and going down it gets progressively worse xD

What is StuO? o.o And are all your classes mandatory or are some optional? Because that's a heck of a lot of classes and I'm not sure you can actually have all of that in a week xD

I am also impressed that you decided to keep taking Latin Razz

Lastly, do you stay in the same class with revolving teachers or do you go to different classes for each subject?

Sorry for all the questions, but this has been a fun read!
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PostSubject: Re: German School System   German School System I_icon_minitime11th September 2015, 8:27 am

Oh, don't worry about the amount of questions - I love questions xD

To your first question: It really is a thing!
Well, at least it applies to the school career from kindergarten to 12th/13th grade (only thing you need to pay for in this time period are workbooks xD). After graduating, however, you start to pay - no matter if you go to college or to university.
The prices for college/university can vary a lot though! Public colleges, for example, are really cheap compared to private ones.

And if you/your parents don't have the money for college/university, you can also ask for something called "BAföG" (some sort of subsidy). They'll basically give you money and you'll give it back once you're done with your studies.

(random: from what I've heard, it seems as if our colleges/universities are a lot cheaper than American ones xD)
((more randomness: a while ago the parliament started discussing about making college free too))
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Transferring to Gymnasium in 5th grade
Okay, so as I said, for transferring to Gymnasium in 5th grade, you need to take that intelligence test to get accepted - this one you have to take in 4th grade. So with an age of 9/10.

When I took that test, I got an IQ of 124 which would have been accepted since the limit was 120 the years before. However, the year I took the test they raised it up to 130, making me not good enough for being considered "highly gifted" xD

I don't blame the test or anything - it's really just that I'm not highly gifted xD
However, what I can say is that the test can be really hard and really nerve-racking, especially when you have to concentrate for such a long time with an age of 9. In retrorespect, it wasn't that bad - however, for young kids like I was back then it's really hard because, you know, kids are kids and kids want to play, kids want to have fun. So sitting on that chair for like two hours was really hard, not only for me but for everyone else too.

Difference between them and me was just that they were smarter xD

So yeah, to come to an end: It is really only for the highly gifted. You can try your best but if you aren't smart enough, it won't work xD

Transferring to Gymnasium in 7th grade
I think I already mentioned that you don't need to take a quiz for that - right? xD

Anyway, just to be on the safe side, you don't need to take a test for that xD The only thing you'll need, most of the time at least, is a letter of recommendation from your Regionalschule. I have no idea about the whole bureaucracy though xD

Of course, you can also try to transfer without a letter of recommendation! However, I noticed that those who didn't get a recommendation had a hard time at the Gymnasium - hard enough to transfer back to Regionalschule after a while.

Though in the first months your grades will really worsen sharply, no matter if you had that letter or not. I personally was a straight A student back then at Regionalschule - however, once attending Gymnasium my grades went down to 3, sometimes even 4, and when I had a good day to 2. So yeah, it's really a great change and one will really realize how hard school can be xD

But it depends on you if you'll get better after that first low. Of course you need to make an effort to get better - you can't only sit on that chair and expect to get better just because you want it to be that way xD
After a while I realized that too and while my grades got better again, some of my classmates didn't try to get better at all and kept their bad grades. At the end, many of those transferred back to Regionalschule.

Of course, as time goes by, things will get harder and harder and sometimes you'll have some new lows again xD But in general I'd say it's possible to be a good student at Gymnasium. You just need to work harder than you did in Regionalschule xD

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I'm really suuuuuuuuuuuuper glad that I'm in 11th grade now xD I would have died if I had needed to pick an extracurricular activity xD

...though I joined Polish class in 8th grade xD

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Oh, I feel you xD

I know many countries with a grading system like yours and it's so confusing when someone says they got a 6 - because to me it seems super bad though it actually isn't that bad at all xD

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Studienorientierung (=study guidance), or short: StuO, is a subject that probably only exists at my school xD They basically only teach you how to study more efficient, how to make a better speech and in general just "How to's" regarding school stuff. So yeah, wasted 45 minutes.

Because c'mon - I studied in school for 10 years now. I don't need to know how to study anymore xD

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To your other question: Yes, all my classes are mandatory xD

But I'm actually pretty lucky. Because I have Latin and Latin is harder and so I only needed to take Latin while the others needed to take two more classes xD
And to your surprise, yes, we have all of them in a week xD Here's my schedule from last year (10th grade), if you're interested:

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Well, I took Latin because it's my best subject xD Plus, my teacher is a sweetheart xD

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Depends xD

From 1st - 4th grade, for example, you only have a few teachers (since they only teach general things, everyone teaches everything xD) and most of the time you always stay in your room xD

From 5th -7th/8th grade you have several teachers and also need to change your room at times, however, you have a classroom and this is where you stay most of the time again.

9th grade and higher - several teachers, several rooms, no classroom xD


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PostSubject: Re: German School System   German School System I_icon_minitime11th September 2015, 8:41 am

Wooah, thank you for the thorough explanation! This is really interesting and I'm glad to learn about all this. School in German seems like the best option financial-wise, especially if university turns free too. I have a cousin who went there and got free schooling, that's pretty cool.

Because if you already have to suffer through it the least they can do is not make you pay or be in debt for it xD

Thanks for all this, Vivie! <3
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PostSubject: Re: German School System   German School System I_icon_minitime11th September 2015, 12:12 pm

I was looking over your answers to Sailor Mercury’s questions, and I noticed several things that were very interesting.

What you said about taking an IQ Test at the age of 9 pretty much agrees with what I remember from my experience.  I remember the educators at my school when I was 8 years old wanted to test me on some things, and they had a heck of a time doing so.  I was just a kid then, so I didn’t want anything to do with taking their tests - especially since this was outside my regular class hours.  As you said, I just wanted to go out and play.  I seem to remember they had to bribe me with some candy corn to take their tests XD.

I even kind of agree with your analysis of that study guidance class (abbreviated StuO in German) in 10th grade.  Not only do you know how to study by then, but you’ve gotten into some ingrained habits.  I know if I had had to take that class at that grade level, I probably would have found it interesting, and may have even found a technique or two where I would think to myself ‘You know, I really should adopt that idea.  I bet it would give me better results.’  (I was one of those weirdos who liked school when I was that age XD.)  But then, since it takes more energy to change those ingrained study habits than it does to remain in them, I would have just kept on studying like I had been before.  So that class also would have been pretty much wasted on me XD.

In 10th grade, you started school at 7:40am and end it at 3:05pm most days.  When I was in school in 10th grade, we started at 8:00am and ended at 2:55pm every weekday.  My only point in bringing this difference up is that you had to wake up earlier to get to school on time.  I personally would have preferred my schedule, because I’ve never been a morning person, which means the more I could have slept in in the morning, the better XD.


But I also noticed your 10th grade classes ended at the beginning of lunchtime (12:50pm) on Tuesdays.  I find that surprising, because my 10th grade classes went until 2:55pm every weekday - no regular exceptions.  Then again in U.S. high school, we never changed our schedule by day of the week - just time of day.  So in 10th grade, when my high school had 6 academic classes per day, every student would have the same 6 classes every weekday - no regular variations from one weekday to another.
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PostSubject: Re: German School System   German School System I_icon_minitime11th September 2015, 1:13 pm

Sailor Mercury wrote:
Wooah, thank you for the thorough explanation! This is really interesting and I'm glad to learn about all this. School in German seems like the best option financial-wise, especially if university turns free too. I have a cousin who went there and got free schooling, that's pretty cool.

Because if you already have to suffer through it the least they can do is not make you pay or be in debt for it xD

Thanks for all this, Vivie! <3

I don't know if it'll ever turn free, considering that the first discussion about that started like 3 (?) years ago. And at the moment they've other problems to solve, so I think it'll still take some time until we reached that point xD

But yeah, you're right - it's nice to not pay for it. Especially not since we suffer so much xD

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I was looking over your answers to Sailor Mercury’s questions, and I noticed several things that were very interesting.

What you said about taking an IQ Test at the age of 9 pretty much agrees with what I remember from my experience.  I remember the educators at my school when I was 8 years old wanted to test me on some things, and they had a heck of a time doing so.  I was just a kid then, so I didn’t want anything to do with taking their tests - especially since this was outside my regular class hours.  As you said, I just wanted to go out and play.  I seem to remember they had to bribe me with some candy corn to take their tests XD.

I even kind of agree with your analysis of that study guidance class (abbreviated StuO in German) in 10th grade.  Not only do you know how to study by then, but you’ve gotten into some ingrained habits.  I know if I had had to take that class at that grade level, I probably would have found it interesting, and may have even found a technique or two where I would think to myself ‘You know, I really should adopt that idea.  I bet it would give me better results.’  (I was one of those weirdos who liked school when I was that age XD.)  But then, since it takes more energy to change those ingrained study habits than it does to remain in them, I would have just kept on studying like I had been before.  So that class also would have been pretty much wasted on me XD.

In 10th grade, you started school at 7:40am and end it at 3:05pm most days.  When I was in school in 10th grade, we started at 8:00am and ended at 2:55pm every weekday.  My only point in bringing this difference up is that you had to wake up earlier to get to school on time.  I personally would have preferred my schedule, because I’ve never been a morning person, which means the more I could have slept in in the morning, the better XD.


But I also noticed your 10th grade classes ended at the beginning of lunchtime (12:50pm) on Tuesdays.  I find that surprising, because my 10th grade classes went until 2:55pm every weekday - no regular exceptions.  Then again in U.S. high school, we never changed our schedule by day of the week - just time of day.  So in 10th grade, when my high school had 6 academic classes per day, every student would have the same 6 classes every weekday - no regular variations from one weekday to another.

Yeah, it's just cruel to let us work that hard at an age of 8 or 9 T___T xD I totally missed my playground. And I didn't even get candy xD

YES, it's a complete waste! Of course, it would have been useful if I would have been in 2nd grade at that time - or in 3rd or 4th. But I was a sophomore at that time - I'm almost done with school, done with that studying xD I don't need any tips, especially not since I already have my own way to study xD
And I don't need it for college either. Because in college I don't need to memorize - I can use all my stuff for papers and exams. The only key for that are good notes. And for that I don't need to study. So yeah...basically I just wasted 45 minutes every freaking Thursday xD

Well, it's only 20 minutes, so it's not that much of a difference Razz
But I agree with you, I would be happier if I could sleep a little longer xD I'm a late riser, so sleeping long and well is something I really need to be in a good mood xD

Well, but you have to see it from another point of view: My last class on Tuesday was Physics. After Physics you can't have another class. After Physics you're done xD You can't do anything. It would have been no use to have another class after that xD

Okay, jk xD
But I'm really grateful about my free periods (now, with my current schedule, I have a free period on Monday mornings) because they really just give me some more time to relax xD
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